Originally Posted by Ravenau deLusan

This was the original idea. I thought it was a good one because it made perfect sense from the pirate PoV. The last thing pirates would want is to see one nation establish a hegemony in the Caribbean because the next target would be pirates. Unfortunately, I don't think the devs thought winning by the strategy of maintaining a balance of power to be interesting enough.

Originally Posted by SWBgHz

So, in short, you get new models for the town and a couple/few PvE missions? Not saying the idea is bad but how is this a 'reward' for taking a port? You think level 50 people give two ****s about some new missions (probably from same repetitive template system) when the PvE in this game is so bad to start with? And once the first two or three times goes past seeing the new port model what is the big deal there? Sorry to be harsh but this seems like the same lame development ideas that has the game in trouble now - sounds good sitting around a room talking about it but in the end it is really meaningless stuff that doesn't appeal to people nor really reward them for the risk of attaining it. No tto mention that the only reward here is giving PvP players some PvE missions - new animations are neat the first couple times you see them but hardly a reward for port battles.

So in the end it is again the flawed premise of doing this part of the game (in this case PvP) to open that part (in this case PvE). Grind hours of contention in PvE to open PvP zone and continue to get PvP battle and risk the stacked odds against pirates winning to get a new town model and some PvE missions? This just makes no sense at all.

Originally Posted by erch

If pirates are supposed to be spoilers, could the port revert back to its original owner after the pirates leave? This way they can have a serious affect on the NvN victory stuff by causing the conquered ports to basically reset.

Taken to the extreme you could add another variable in the victory status just for pirates. Give the nations a set time, say 6 weeks, if no nation can win in 6 weeks the pirates win. It makes sense because this means the pirates are doing a decent job “spoiling”.

Originally Posted by jadedduck1

Wait, what incentive do nationals have to take pirate ports? 3 victory points? You get 10 more for taking and keeping another nationals port, and even if you lose it, well you got the 3 for winning anyway. The only benefit is a day-before-update blitz, which may not necessarily be easier than a day-before-update blitz on national ports.

So, seriously, what incentive is there for a national to raid a pirate port?

Originally Posted by Taralin Snowden

or perhaps not. it looks like the values in the example represent population levels, rather than actual counts. so "0" would be "light", "1" would be "medium" and "2" would be "heavy", for example.